WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:28.480 Hello everyone, my name is Mariko or Zugi, a line and today we're going to talk about playing 00:28.480 --> 00:33.960 a line games with our language barriers, I don't want to bother you, so let's keep into 00:33.960 --> 00:34.960 it. 00:34.960 --> 00:38.080 We're going to talk basically about three things, the first thing that you're supposed 00:38.080 --> 00:44.640 to know is the source like the software that we use, that I use in order to make games, 00:44.640 --> 00:51.160 then the actual server that I'm in saying where translations are super useful for us and 00:51.160 --> 00:56.520 then our life basically changed between like before and after web late. 00:56.520 --> 01:03.520 So I don't know if you know what everything is under CC bias, I don't know if you 01:03.520 --> 01:09.880 are aware of what Luancy is, probably you are, if you're here, but it was formerly known 01:09.880 --> 01:14.240 as Minecraft, sorry, not Minecraft. 01:14.240 --> 01:21.760 Hi Microsoft, my test, but I can't read physically from here and is not a game is a game 01:21.760 --> 01:26.160 platform, I don't know if you've ever played Roblox, have you ever played Roblox, you 01:26.240 --> 01:32.160 know how, okay, so basically you can make your own games and publish them or play games 01:32.160 --> 01:40.440 made by other people within the same software and how do translations work under the 01:40.440 --> 01:42.080 who, yeah, this is Roblox. 01:42.080 --> 01:45.160 And how do translations work under the hoods? 01:45.160 --> 01:53.120 Well, we started our little adventure with a custom format that was called .TR, basically, 01:53.120 --> 02:00.000 but we've recently switched to one of the interested standards at least which is POS-PFT. 02:00.000 --> 02:02.840 This is very important for later. 02:02.840 --> 02:11.200 Now, our server, well, is a mini game server that was born in 2020 and currently features 02:11.200 --> 02:18.680 14 different languages thanks to contributors, I speak three, not 14 and the majority 02:18.680 --> 02:22.720 of the staff is Italian, so that's one of the languages. 02:22.840 --> 02:30.440 Language accessibility is very important because when you log in, the first thing you see is this. 02:30.440 --> 02:36.000 Now, you probably understand what's written because, well, if you're here and you understand 02:36.000 --> 02:43.200 me, you probably understand that as well, but when our user accounts really answer the 02:43.200 --> 02:48.720 question that is like a bot, a voider, I don't know how to call it, but and they don't 02:48.760 --> 02:55.360 know they had to put never because they don't understand what's written above, we have 02:55.360 --> 02:57.160 a problem here. 02:57.160 --> 03:01.600 So we don't want people that don't understand any language and supported on the server because 03:01.600 --> 03:09.640 we can't really assist them and support them, but at the same time, you know, let's say 03:09.640 --> 03:12.600 this is the Chinese and you don't understand Chinese. 03:12.600 --> 03:14.960 Why are you supposed to write there? 03:15.880 --> 03:18.160 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 03:18.160 --> 03:23.600 You don't know, I don't know, I don't speak Chinese, and the same thing is for, like, we 03:23.600 --> 03:31.000 have this mini game where you've gone classes, where every class has gone, it's own skills, 03:31.000 --> 03:37.040 you can try or never every class, but if you can at least understand a bit of what's 03:37.040 --> 03:44.560 happening before you actually play the class that is better, or maybe we also have, like, 03:44.640 --> 03:51.600 a shooter game and the same applies, or we have skins, you can unlock, there is, like, on 03:51.600 --> 03:56.640 hints, telling you how to unlock the skin, if you don't understand the hints, well, that's 03:56.640 --> 03:57.920 going to be a problem. 03:57.920 --> 04:03.920 And talking about hints and problems, we featured this event, like, last Halloween, where 04:03.920 --> 04:12.480 you had to find this 10 ghosts scatter around the map, and every ghost was behind a 04:12.560 --> 04:17.440 riddle, like you had to solve a riddle, and solving riddles, even if you're, even if you're 04:17.440 --> 04:23.440 even if even in your, sorry, it's Sunday. 04:23.440 --> 04:29.040 Even in your mother tongue is, can be very difficult. 04:29.040 --> 04:32.880 Now imagine if you don't even know the language, and what do you do? 04:32.880 --> 04:38.320 You just go trial and error, which is what a lot of users did, and the event was a failure, 04:38.400 --> 04:40.880 but that's a horse of a different color. 04:40.880 --> 04:46.960 The point is, you want people to understand what they're reading, and bringing up 04:46.960 --> 04:54.000 weblades, basically, we used to, well, we didn't use weblades for, basically, four years, 04:54.000 --> 04:58.880 and in four years, we had five languages, I speak three, so three, where just from me, 04:58.880 --> 05:04.400 so let's say two new languages, people were forced to learn gits, like translators, 05:04.480 --> 05:12.960 and also had to deal with a custom syntax, because the TR format was just something that Lonti 05:12.960 --> 05:20.480 had, so that was an issue. After weblades, we reached the famous 14 languages, we got nine 05:20.480 --> 05:25.760 in one year, we also had a handy interface, because that's what weblade gives to you, 05:25.760 --> 05:31.200 it gives you the proper tools to actually translate something, and not just understand what 05:31.280 --> 05:37.040 it is, like, what a PR, or an MR, it depends on the platform using it, so basically, 05:37.040 --> 05:45.600 the only people that were, like, these people were devs who were also kind of able to translate 05:45.600 --> 05:50.560 contents, and usually the quality of what's kind of pool, because they were, like, developers, 05:50.560 --> 05:56.960 they were translators. With this, in stats, we have people that maybe don't even know how to 05:57.040 --> 06:01.680 write a single line of codes, but we don't care, because they, they shouldn't do that, they 06:01.680 --> 06:07.920 should actually translate contents, and we are currently hosted on translate.coldberg.org, thanks 06:07.920 --> 06:15.120 to one of the Koibach's staff, which is not here, he is as an actor, I'm really grateful to him, 06:15.120 --> 06:21.520 and we also started migrating like our server, started migrating to the industry standards. Why? 06:22.480 --> 06:30.640 Because of this, so weblade supports a lot of formats out there, but it doesn't support TR, 06:30.640 --> 06:38.240 because guess what TR is not, a format, I mean, it is just for us. So the closest thing is the 06:38.240 --> 06:47.680 Google Web Toolkit, UTF8, but if your language contains apostrophes, like, are you from France, 06:47.760 --> 06:58.400 are you from Belgium, are you from Italy? Well, that is good, okay, but when it goes into 06:59.920 --> 07:08.800 weblades, due to the custom formats, this happens. So double apostrophes, and U, it just says, 07:08.800 --> 07:14.400 there was, like, once upon a time, there was a duck, that's a resolution, it just, if you're curious, 07:14.480 --> 07:20.640 but the point is, that's an issue. So we found a compromise for now, and we just put back 07:20.640 --> 07:26.960 ticks instead of apostrophes, but as an Italian, I know that there is something wrong in that 07:26.960 --> 07:33.280 sentence, because we don't actually use back ticks at all. So we also have to tell our French 07:33.280 --> 07:40.160 translators, please do do that, do that, I know it's weird, I know it's bad, but it's better than that. 07:40.160 --> 07:47.760 That's why we are migrating to a standard, because using a standard, it allows you to use third-party 07:47.760 --> 07:56.160 apps or websites or whatever without incurring into issues, possibly. So, oh wow, I was super 07:56.160 --> 08:02.560 French actually. Well, this is the last slide, but we can talk about, if you want, 08:02.720 --> 08:12.000 short, duringvent the wheel, please, when we were using, well, when we created dot tr, it was 08:12.000 --> 08:19.360 a dark time, probably, and it was just this niche project, we didn't think about reaching 08:19.360 --> 08:25.280 this level. So, but just don't remember wheel, if you can use something, please use it, if it's like 08:26.960 --> 08:32.400 tested and retested, a lot of times, please do. Also, translators shouldn't have to deal 08:32.480 --> 08:39.920 with that environment, because, well, that should be quite straightforward. And translation means 08:39.920 --> 08:48.160 accessibility, we have users that definitely don't speak English, but they can play whatever, 08:48.160 --> 08:56.080 because maybe somebody translated the server in Russian, or in Ukraine, or in Portuguese, or in 08:56.080 --> 09:02.640 I don't know, is Hungarian, whatever you want, even Chinese, we have the whole server, basically, 09:02.640 --> 09:07.120 translated in Chinese. I don't know if the quality is good, because, again, I don't speak Chinese, 09:07.120 --> 09:12.640 but the point is, if you don't speak English, that could be useful. And also, the most important 09:12.640 --> 09:19.520 thing about all this is the agent sitting, because sometimes it happens that, well, once we have 09:19.520 --> 09:29.280 this German player, he went to us and told us, have you like use a, like, deep L, or Google Translate, 09:29.280 --> 09:39.520 or whatever, to translate contents in German? And I was like, no, why? Oh, because, well, it uses the 09:39.600 --> 09:49.040 polite, like, formal pronoun when it speaks, like, Z, Z, Z instead of do, do, do, do. And, 09:49.040 --> 09:54.080 you know, it's a game for kids, basically, you don't want to be super polite with kids, and 09:54.080 --> 10:02.880 it was like, I mean, we have polite for me even in time, and so, yeah, it feels pretty weird. 10:03.520 --> 10:09.040 And we were like, no, but, you know, I just picked German, so I didn't even notice, because I 10:09.040 --> 10:15.360 playing Spanish, even if I'm Italian, because I want to be sure that Spanish works at the same time, 10:16.080 --> 10:21.840 I started Spanish at the university, but the point is, you know, what? If you think it's bad, 10:21.840 --> 10:27.920 this is a link, you just need to sign up, and you can fix it yourself, and they were like, what? 10:28.000 --> 10:34.960 Yeah, you can do that. They fix it, and what you obtain is user not just being passive, like, just 10:35.760 --> 10:44.880 being a player, having fun, yeah, whatever, great, but there can also be parts of the ecosystem, 10:44.880 --> 10:52.080 like, of the making of the game. And, yeah, you can say it's exploitation, but it's also free, 10:52.160 --> 10:57.600 like, even us, it's exploitation, we exploit ourselves, basically. So, and everything is 10:57.600 --> 11:04.080 under AGPL. So, whatever they're doing, it can be reused, it can be modified, 11:04.080 --> 11:13.120 or more people can actually modify their translations, like it happened with a ZZ case, and they're 11:13.120 --> 11:18.560 very happy, basically, when they look in again, and they see that their translation is now the 11:18.640 --> 11:27.120 official translation of something that is just a simple niche server on currency, which is 11:27.120 --> 11:34.640 still kind of niche, if I must be honest, even if I represent it. So, yeah, that is, it's also, 11:34.640 --> 11:42.160 since I have two minutes left, we also use an auxiliary library that's automatically, well, if you 11:42.880 --> 11:52.240 check the accessibility option, when you play, you see the description of every time in the corner, 11:52.240 --> 12:00.960 like, below, and the cool thing is you can translate all the accessibility messages, which is cool, 12:00.960 --> 12:11.360 because people can both be deaf and not English, you know. So, it's double accessibility layer, 12:11.440 --> 12:17.360 and that, I think, that is great, not just because we did it. If you want more information, 12:17.360 --> 12:25.120 in general, launch it.org is the tool that we use, and that now we use this POS-POT. So, 12:25.120 --> 12:30.480 you can use the industry standard and not have all the issues we have to deal with, like, 12:30.480 --> 12:36.960 apostrophes, and if you want to know more, or if you want to check just if the translation of your 12:37.280 --> 12:45.040 language is good, that is the AES website, which is the middle game website. I don't know if 12:45.040 --> 12:51.280 there are questions, it's Sunday, again, afternoon, but thank you for listening, and that is it. 13:06.960 --> 13:29.040 Yes, because the cool thing is, that's a very interesting question. Thank you. The cool thing 13:29.040 --> 13:36.640 of Lonti is that is modular. So, our server is made of, like, 40 modules, and some of those 13:36.720 --> 13:42.800 are very specific for our server, like the, like, the terms of service, it's something we 13:42.800 --> 13:50.000 made just for us, but you can still take it, for kids, edit it, but I'd say the majority of 13:50.000 --> 13:55.920 contents on our server is actually made to be generic, like, we used libraries. So, for instance, 13:55.920 --> 14:03.840 the audio library is not specific for our server, or, like, being a minigame server, there are a lot 14:03.920 --> 14:11.680 of messages about cues, like, okay, three seconds until the game starts, and if one single person 14:11.680 --> 14:19.600 translates that string, everyone using everyone who wants to have a minigame server, 14:20.400 --> 14:27.920 already has got that translation. Or, let's say, I want to have a server with animals, 14:28.000 --> 14:35.280 and maybe, I don't know, I have ways to breed animals. It can be, I don't know, using Hags, 14:35.280 --> 14:41.200 Hags, or, hey, or whatever. If that content is translated into Italian, for instance, 14:41.760 --> 14:47.440 hey, it's like, Fieno. Everyone playing with the Italian clients, 14:48.560 --> 14:55.520 on a game that uses the same mods, wouldn't read, hey, would read, Fieno, because you 14:55.520 --> 14:57.600 translated once, and that's it.