WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.520 Hello everybody, welcome here at Phastam at the Lightning Talks. 00:10.520 --> 00:18.800 I want to introduce to you Benjamin Benjamin and the talk about celebration open standards 00:18.800 --> 00:32.680 how podcasting 2.0 shaped the future of podcasting, give him a warm welcome and a joyful talk. 00:32.680 --> 00:45.840 Hello everyone, the world is a mess, fire everywhere, floods everywhere, species becoming extinct 00:45.840 --> 00:48.400 every day. 00:48.400 --> 00:55.800 On top of that are private data who were stolen by big US corporation or no being stolen 00:55.800 --> 01:05.800 by big IA US corporation then stolen by European IA corporations then stolen by IA Chinese 01:05.800 --> 01:09.280 corporation. 01:09.280 --> 01:18.200 So if you came here to hear me complaining about the way the world goes during the wrong 01:18.200 --> 01:28.200 room because I'm here to tell you a story about hope and love. 01:28.200 --> 01:34.720 So I'm Benjamin, I love podcast, I love free and open source software, I'm the father 01:34.720 --> 01:39.080 of cast-op-odd which is an open source podcast hosting platform connected to the 01:39.080 --> 01:48.040 failures with activity pub and so today I'm going I'm here to tell you a story, no big deal 01:48.040 --> 01:57.880 just one story but I think it's a story that is worth telling since I have only a few minutes 01:57.960 --> 02:01.560 I'll go straight to the point. 02:01.560 --> 02:09.080 So almost 14 billion years ago the big bang, burst of the universe which is kind of 02:09.080 --> 02:10.080 importance. 02:10.080 --> 02:19.920 Then for a billion years ago formation of the earth then life on earth then extension 02:19.920 --> 02:27.120 of the dinosaurs which is a pretty important thing because I told you many species are 02:27.160 --> 02:30.600 getting extinct. 02:30.600 --> 02:39.720 First human two and a half billion years ago then burst of language which happens to be 02:39.720 --> 02:45.280 kind of important when we are talking about podcasting but we'll see that later invention 02:45.360 --> 02:59.200 of writing then probably the most major event from this timeline the first podcast being 02:59.200 --> 03:08.720 published so here let's take a break because it's worth knowing what is it that's 03:08.720 --> 03:15.720 we're talking about here so what is a podcast who knows what is a podcast here 03:15.720 --> 03:24.720 almost everyone so does this looks familiar to you where's your hand if it's familiar 03:24.720 --> 03:34.480 okay so like a half so podcast is an audiophile usually MP3 or AC it can be other format 03:34.480 --> 03:44.720 but these are the most common ones posted on the web syndicated through RSS feed and 03:44.720 --> 03:53.440 containing metadata to tell what this is about so let's have a flashback two years ago 03:53.440 --> 04:02.840 I was here at first them talking about what is a podcast and this is what I showed does 04:02.840 --> 04:11.400 it bring you back to anyone here so this is a podcast it's an RSS feed meaning anyone 04:11.400 --> 04:17.920 any platform any app can read it can share it can do whatever they want to so you're 04:17.920 --> 04:25.920 free your content is not locked in a silo or in a closed platform this is not a podcast 04:26.000 --> 04:34.720 because it's not available anywhere outside of this platform so again this is a podcast 04:34.720 --> 04:50.720 not a podcast let's go back to the timeline so in 2005 Apple launched iTunes podcast 04:50.800 --> 05:01.360 which is a big deal because basically for 15 years Apple sustained the podcast ecosystem they 05:01.360 --> 05:09.200 didn't get any money from it except the fact that probably they stole some iPods but they 05:09.280 --> 05:24.000 made the podcast ecosystem alive but they did not touch it there was not a single feature launched 05:24.000 --> 05:35.920 between these 15 years between 2005 and 2020 which when you think about it is really weird 05:35.920 --> 05:46.400 because during that time we had social networks DSL connections 3G 4G and so many things but 05:47.440 --> 05:58.320 the podcasts did not evolve at all 2012 extension of Google Listen which was a platform for listening to 05:58.400 --> 06:09.600 podcasts and then Google leader who replaced Google Listen also got extinct and then Google 06:09.600 --> 06:20.400 play music who replaced Google Listen also got extinct I told you many spaces disappear 06:20.720 --> 06:30.080 so now in the summer of the year 2020 two guys Adam Curry and Dave Jones started to 06:32.720 --> 06:39.920 I think getting bored of Apple not doing anything regarding podcasts so they decided to start 06:39.920 --> 06:48.160 a movement and ecosystem a family there's no strict definition for that which they call podcasting 06:48.400 --> 06:55.920 to point O which is just a new DT meaning a way to add new features to podcasting 06:57.360 --> 07:04.080 and they introduced the transcription tag which is something very basic it's just a way to say 07:05.440 --> 07:14.560 in an RSS feed this is the audio content let's say an MP3 file but there's also next to it's 07:15.520 --> 07:23.040 an SRT file or text file with all the transcripts which is a huge deal because 07:24.400 --> 07:31.840 as long as the MP3 file are alone you just have the metadata to tell you what's in it and we know 07:31.840 --> 07:41.200 that metadata are not always filled the same way for everyone and sometimes there's almost nothing 07:41.280 --> 07:51.840 just a title so knowing what is actually inside the MP3 file becomes very easy once you have 07:51.840 --> 08:02.880 the transcript so it changes everything but only for people using it and so at that time 08:02.960 --> 08:14.000 they were only a few of us implementing this within six months several dozens of software and 08:14.000 --> 08:23.520 company use that which I was really really gladly surprised with that but let's face it it was just 08:23.600 --> 08:34.640 the small players not the big ones so two years ago I was here to tell you about how podcasting 08:34.640 --> 08:43.360 2.0 would eventually change the face of podcasting but after admits now I was lying I was hoping 08:43.360 --> 08:55.200 that it would but I knew deep inside that we were too small we were fighting against giants 08:55.200 --> 09:03.280 big tech and we were trying to make everything compatible with each other with interoperability 09:04.480 --> 09:11.920 and at some point you have to be realistic and face the truth that it will work with a small community 09:12.000 --> 09:24.960 but that's it but last year in a very alternative events Apple podcasts added transcriptions 09:24.960 --> 09:34.800 to their platform and the thing is the way they did it is probably the best that we could dream of 09:35.760 --> 09:44.480 they added their own servers to actually provide the transcription and make it but if your podcast 09:44.480 --> 09:51.280 is hosting some place with the transcript tag and if you are already providing the transcription 09:51.280 --> 10:00.320 with your own servers and because you'll do it yourself Apple will fetch it and will publish it 10:00.320 --> 10:08.320 to their platform so if they had asked me they hadn't but if they had asked me how should we do 10:08.320 --> 10:17.440 it I would probably have told them to do it the way they actually did it so we have to acknowledge 10:17.440 --> 10:25.280 that what they did is really fair and goes into the right direction obviously 10:26.160 --> 10:34.640 why eventually they did that especially Apple who invented the not invented here system 10:36.080 --> 10:42.080 is probably because now they feared that they have competition with Spotify who is 10:42.800 --> 10:48.160 releasing new features so probably they had to do something but eventually we have to 10:48.240 --> 10:59.120 to see that this is something really, really nice so what importance here is what should we 10:59.600 --> 11:06.160 conclude from this by embracing podcasting to point all the podcast ecosystem can say 11:06.160 --> 11:22.880 independent innovative and resilient and it works for real now the fact that Apple podcast 11:22.880 --> 11:31.440 implemented the transcript tag of course many many companies will cope and say oh this is for real 11:31.440 --> 11:38.480 so we have to implement it as well so right now there are 63 platforms implementing the transcript tag 11:41.920 --> 11:47.680 and transcription of course is not the only feature that's podcasting to point always adding 11:47.680 --> 11:56.800 there are many many more so we can bet that more of them will become widely accepted by the 11:56.800 --> 12:06.400 the whole podcasting ecosystem so if you want to know where to get information there are many 12:06.400 --> 12:12.960 many ways the easiest if probably to go to podcasting to dot org where you'll find everything 12:12.960 --> 12:20.880 whether you're a listener a podcaster or a developer so this is the URL you should probably 12:21.520 --> 12:31.280 write down and of course I said that podcasting to point all is a community 12:31.840 --> 12:39.120 everyone is welcome if you need a feature that does not exist anyone can ask for a new feature 12:39.120 --> 12:47.200 to be developed and adopted and maybe it will work maybe it won't but anyone can play a part 12:47.360 --> 12:59.360 one last thing last year google podcasts also got extinct so one question remains 13:01.760 --> 13:10.480 when will youtube podcast extinct so thank you that we all for me if you want to know more about 13:10.480 --> 13:21.760 podcasting and how we can make this ecosystem enjoyable and sustainable we'll have a talk tomorrow 13:21.760 --> 13:31.680 at the board of the third trick a and we'll talk about web monetization thank you 13:31.680 --> 13:37.600 okay thank you for your talk